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	<title>Comments on: Thoughtful Tuesday: Transhumanism</title>
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		<title>By: sebastian</title>
		<link>http://blog.mrseb.co.uk/2009/09/thoughtful-tuesday-transhumanism/comment-page-1/#comment-9216</link>
		<dc:creator>sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yar, but how long until people have &#039;accidents&#039; and lose their legs? :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yar, but how long until people have &#8216;accidents&#8217; and lose their legs? <img src='http://blog.mrseb.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://blog.mrseb.co.uk/2009/09/thoughtful-tuesday-transhumanism/comment-page-1/#comment-9215</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember that guy.  You almost feel bad for him, though, because it&#039;s not an upgrade, it&#039;s a replacement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember that guy.  You almost feel bad for him, though, because it&#8217;s not an upgrade, it&#8217;s a replacement.</p>
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		<title>By: sebastian</title>
		<link>http://blog.mrseb.co.uk/2009/09/thoughtful-tuesday-transhumanism/comment-page-1/#comment-9203</link>
		<dc:creator>sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah... well, they already had that guy who wanted to compete with &#039;bionic&#039; legs -- it was carbon fibre or something, and he was very, very fast. They ruled that he wasn&#039;t allowed to compete (obviously...)

I already feel that way when watching sports, sometimes. But I compare them to video games -- and cyber sports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230; well, they already had that guy who wanted to compete with &#8216;bionic&#8217; legs &#8212; it was carbon fibre or something, and he was very, very fast. They ruled that he wasn&#8217;t allowed to compete (obviously&#8230;)</p>
<p>I already feel that way when watching sports, sometimes. But I compare them to video games &#8212; and cyber sports.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://blog.mrseb.co.uk/2009/09/thoughtful-tuesday-transhumanism/comment-page-1/#comment-9187</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 05:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contests become a bit irrelevant down the pike, don&#039;t they?  Who wants to play Jeopardy when everyone on the game has downloaded the latest GoogleBrain patch?  Similarly, would you stop athletes from making these upgrades?  Would athletes be overmatched by us average folk?  Imagine sports becoming an arena of relative weaklings, a glimpse into the past, when people couldn&#039;t go-go gadget whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contests become a bit irrelevant down the pike, don&#8217;t they?  Who wants to play Jeopardy when everyone on the game has downloaded the latest GoogleBrain patch?  Similarly, would you stop athletes from making these upgrades?  Would athletes be overmatched by us average folk?  Imagine sports becoming an arena of relative weaklings, a glimpse into the past, when people couldn&#8217;t go-go gadget whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: sebastian</title>
		<link>http://blog.mrseb.co.uk/2009/09/thoughtful-tuesday-transhumanism/comment-page-1/#comment-9062</link>
		<dc:creator>sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Floreta -- I think (hope) we&#039;re well into space or being discovered by other alien races by that stage. I think we have a little way to go on the overpopulation front. But we could just stop breeding, if it&#039;s a real issue... (it&#039;s been covered in a lot of sci-fi books I think)

I get your point AGD -- and obviously this &#039;playing God&#039; thing is very closely entwined with the &#039;soul&#039; concept. Don&#039;t mess around too much, lest we sever our connection to God...

But now we&#039;re not moving into correcting failures. We&#039;re now going into augmentation, upgrades. Replacing parts of our brain that are merely &#039;average&#039; with faster, cybernetic equivalents. I guess from the grand picture these are still &#039;faults&#039; -- anything that can be improved should be, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Floreta &#8212; I think (hope) we&#8217;re well into space or being discovered by other alien races by that stage. I think we have a little way to go on the overpopulation front. But we could just stop breeding, if it&#8217;s a real issue&#8230; (it&#8217;s been covered in a lot of sci-fi books I think)</p>
<p>I get your point AGD &#8212; and obviously this &#8216;playing God&#8217; thing is very closely entwined with the &#8217;soul&#8217; concept. Don&#8217;t mess around too much, lest we sever our connection to God&#8230;</p>
<p>But now we&#8217;re not moving into correcting failures. We&#8217;re now going into augmentation, upgrades. Replacing parts of our brain that are merely &#8216;average&#8217; with faster, cybernetic equivalents. I guess from the grand picture these are still &#8216;faults&#8217; &#8212; anything that can be improved should be, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: AGD</title>
		<link>http://blog.mrseb.co.uk/2009/09/thoughtful-tuesday-transhumanism/comment-page-1/#comment-9046</link>
		<dc:creator>AGD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have been clearer; I&#039;m really not cheery enough to believe that curiosity is a universal or near-universal quality.

This &#039;playing God&#039; stuff has never made too much sense. There&#039;s no clear way to determine what belongs in that category, not least because of the distinct lack of agreement about the beardy entity in question. There&#039;s nothing in, say, genetic engineering, that inherently rules it part of divine mandate without also capturing organ transplants, life support machines and prescription eyeglasses. All of these, it could be argued, go against what&#039;s &#039;meant&#039; to happen because each compensates for some failing or other of the basic human body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have been clearer; I&#8217;m really not cheery enough to believe that curiosity is a universal or near-universal quality.</p>
<p>This &#8216;playing God&#8217; stuff has never made too much sense. There&#8217;s no clear way to determine what belongs in that category, not least because of the distinct lack of agreement about the beardy entity in question. There&#8217;s nothing in, say, genetic engineering, that inherently rules it part of divine mandate without also capturing organ transplants, life support machines and prescription eyeglasses. All of these, it could be argued, go against what&#8217;s &#8216;meant&#8217; to happen because each compensates for some failing or other of the basic human body.</p>
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		<title>By: floreta</title>
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		<dc:creator>floreta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m of the we shouldn&#039;t play god camp. and as far as longevity goes.. what about world population?? i just don&#039;t think the world could handle that many old folks or if we could live forever!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m of the we shouldn&#8217;t play god camp. and as far as longevity goes.. what about world population?? i just don&#8217;t think the world could handle that many old folks or if we could live forever!</p>
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		<title>By: sebastian</title>
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		<dc:creator>sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, we&#039;re currently gaining about a year every decade, apparently. Obviously when that comes down to 1 or 2 years every year, we become effectively immortal (there&#039;s an interesting TED talk on that particular topic: http://www.ted.com/talks/aubrey_de_grey_says_we_can_avoid_aging.html )

I don&#039;t presuppose that we like finding answers per se. More that we like poking at things; like the fabric of the universe. We don&#039;t usually like the answers that arise from new knowledge, and it sometimes takes a long, long time to settle in... but it&#039;s kind of hard to avoid scientific fact I guess (or is it... :P)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, we&#8217;re currently gaining about a year every decade, apparently. Obviously when that comes down to 1 or 2 years every year, we become effectively immortal (there&#8217;s an interesting TED talk on that particular topic: <a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/aubrey_de_grey_says_we_can_avoid_aging.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ted.com/talks/aubrey_de_grey_says_we_can_avoid_aging.html</a> )</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t presuppose that we like finding answers per se. More that we like poking at things; like the fabric of the universe. We don&#8217;t usually like the answers that arise from new knowledge, and it sometimes takes a long, long time to settle in&#8230; but it&#8217;s kind of hard to avoid scientific fact I guess (or is it&#8230; <img src='http://blog.mrseb.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: AGD</title>
		<link>http://blog.mrseb.co.uk/2009/09/thoughtful-tuesday-transhumanism/comment-page-1/#comment-9029</link>
		<dc:creator>AGD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of all the technologies in that list, the only one that really touches on &#039;human nature&#039; is the life-extending stuff. Even then, we might adjust pretty quickly; the sorts of lifespans we&#039;re lucky enough to have might have seemed impossible to fill to anyone without the benefits of modern medicine. 

The question of what makes us human isn&#039;t really an existential one but a question of essence, as it&#039;s a question about what particular quality we pick out as the essential one in defining the human.

I think you overestimate how much people like finding answers, though, especially to metaphysics-type questions like &#039;what is human?&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of all the technologies in that list, the only one that really touches on &#8216;human nature&#8217; is the life-extending stuff. Even then, we might adjust pretty quickly; the sorts of lifespans we&#8217;re lucky enough to have might have seemed impossible to fill to anyone without the benefits of modern medicine. </p>
<p>The question of what makes us human isn&#8217;t really an existential one but a question of essence, as it&#8217;s a question about what particular quality we pick out as the essential one in defining the human.</p>
<p>I think you overestimate how much people like finding answers, though, especially to metaphysics-type questions like &#8216;what is human?&#8217;.</p>
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